2011 Rose & Bay Voting : Fiction Category
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crowdfundingThe poll is closed. Thank you for voting. I will post the top fourteen shortly. A new poll will go up on March 1 with the top fourteen nominees.
Voting is now open for the Fiction category of the Rose and Bay Awards. These awards honor excellence in cyberfunded creativity (aka crowdfunding), and this category recognizes superlative writing in the field of fiction, which includes both short form and novel length or serial stories. Everyone is encouraged to vote. Please read the complete details below, and then make your vote in the following poll. For more information about this award, visit the 2011 landing page.
What Is the Rose and Bay Award?
The Rose and Bay Award focuses on a growing business model known as "crowdfunding" or "cyberfunded creativity," which directly connects creative people and patrons of the arts online. This award recognizes exemplary projects and enthusiastic patrons. It currently features six categories: Art, Fiction, Poetry, Webcomic, Other Project, and Patron. (Other Project includes any cyberfunded creativity that isn't art, fiction, poetry, or webcomic -- or that spans more than one category -- such as movies, music, etc.) The categories and their handlers are listed below:
The award period for eligible activities spans January 1-December 31, 2010.
The nomination period spans January 1-January 31, 2011.
The voting period spans February 1-February 28, 2011 (with timing for the run-off to be determined once the award founder regains internet access).
Voting Rules
1) Voters are encouraged (but not required) to browse the nominees before making a final decision; that's what the links are for, and the purpose of this award is to promote the splendor of crowdfunded projects. If you have not already explored the nominees, please refer back to the Fiction nomination post.
2) Voting will take place via LiveJournal polling in this community, open to all. Everyone is eligible to vote; if you do not have a LiveJournal account, you may leave a comment below with your full name and your vote. You may cast ONE vote per category. (There may need to be more than one poll question per category, and runoffs, in categories with a high number of nominees.) You may not vote for your own project, nor yourself as a patron; that's tacky. Votes FOR THIS CATEGORY ONLY may be placed by email to esemer AT g mail PERIOD com. No, it's not particularly anonymous either, but it is the best I can do at this point.
3) Winners will be announced after the polling is completed.
How You Can Help
As a new award, Rose and Bay depends on your enthusiasm to make it a success. Here are some ways you can help that happen:
1) Cast your vote! Watch for the voting polls to appear for the other projects, and vote in those too.
2) Promote the Rose and Bay Award by blogging about it, emailing your friends, posting it on social networks, or any other method you can imagine. Everyone is encouraged to spread the word as far as possible whether you are a creator, a donor, or a curious bystander. Here is some art for the Rose and Bay Award.
3) If you're a patron or audience member, link to your favorite nominees and then direct people to the relevant voting pages.
4) If you're a creative person, let your audience know which of your projects have been nominated for a Rose and Bay Award, including a link to the relevant voting page(s). Let your fans know there is a way for them to honor your project and the patrons who make it possible.
Here is the poll. Nominees are listed in the order they were nominated (with the exception of moving both nominations by one author into the same category). This order was chosen in order to avoid any personal preferences Eseme may have from influencing voting. The top FOURTEEN nominees will be put into a final poll of fourteen projects which will determine the award winner. The timing of this final poll will be determined when I can reach the award founder, who is currently offline due to a very large snow and ice storm.
Poll
[Poll #1675877]
View the current poll totals here. Add to those totals one vote for Lovers and Beloveds, one vote for Tales of MU, one vote for Eclipse Court, and one vote for Philosopher in Arms (these votes came in by email and LJ comment, and will be updated weekly).
This post has been edited once, because it still said "Webcomic Category" in the title. Sorry!
This is the second poll to be put up. I am a firm believer in anonymous voting. LJ will not allow a poll that no one can see the individual results for. I will be able to see them, which will allow me to count votes, since I *also* cannot see the numbers once a poll gets to a certain number - they go off the edge of this layout. I am not a community mod, so I can't change the layout. If you are concerned that I will manipulate the results behind the scenes, where you cannot see them, I will point out that if the layout of this community was changed, everyone would be able to view the total votes for each nominee in the poll - however no one but me will be able to see who voted for what (again, webfiction is a small community, and in this poll you cannot vote for all your friends - I think there will a much smaller possibility of hurt feelings here). I will take votes by email, because the requirement that voters provide real names makes people uncomfortable. Right now I am using a personal account - I would prefer that an account be set up for the awards in general, and that all volunteers for the awards have the password.
Also edited to clarify that yes, the top 14 will go into a second round of voting. Sorry, I mistyped in my earlier poll.
Additionally, I have added an email address for which people from outside LJ can contact me and vote (JUST for this category!). You will be asked to provide a nickname or real name when you do so.
Sorry for the confusion - clearly I am not good at polls at all.
Edited on 2/8/2011 to post totals from comments and emails.
Edited again on 2/23/2011 to add one more vote by email, and subtract one vote which was against the rules.
Voting is now open for the Fiction category of the Rose and Bay Awards. These awards honor excellence in cyberfunded creativity (aka crowdfunding), and this category recognizes superlative writing in the field of fiction, which includes both short form and novel length or serial stories. Everyone is encouraged to vote. Please read the complete details below, and then make your vote in the following poll. For more information about this award, visit the 2011 landing page.
What Is the Rose and Bay Award?
The Rose and Bay Award focuses on a growing business model known as "crowdfunding" or "cyberfunded creativity," which directly connects creative people and patrons of the arts online. This award recognizes exemplary projects and enthusiastic patrons. It currently features six categories: Art, Fiction, Poetry, Webcomic, Other Project, and Patron. (Other Project includes any cyberfunded creativity that isn't art, fiction, poetry, or webcomic -- or that spans more than one category -- such as movies, music, etc.) The categories and their handlers are listed below:
Art:itew Click here for the Nomination Post
Fiction:
Poetry:
Webcomic:
Other Project:
Patron:
The award period for eligible activities spans January 1-December 31, 2010.
The nomination period spans January 1-January 31, 2011.
The voting period spans February 1-February 28, 2011 (with timing for the run-off to be determined once the award founder regains internet access).
Voting Rules
1) Voters are encouraged (but not required) to browse the nominees before making a final decision; that's what the links are for, and the purpose of this award is to promote the splendor of crowdfunded projects. If you have not already explored the nominees, please refer back to the Fiction nomination post.
2) Voting will take place via LiveJournal polling in this community, open to all. Everyone is eligible to vote; if you do not have a LiveJournal account, you may leave a comment below with your full name and your vote. You may cast ONE vote per category. (There may need to be more than one poll question per category, and runoffs, in categories with a high number of nominees.) You may not vote for your own project, nor yourself as a patron; that's tacky. Votes FOR THIS CATEGORY ONLY may be placed by email to esemer AT g mail PERIOD com. No, it's not particularly anonymous either, but it is the best I can do at this point.
3) Winners will be announced after the polling is completed.
How You Can Help
As a new award, Rose and Bay depends on your enthusiasm to make it a success. Here are some ways you can help that happen:
1) Cast your vote! Watch for the voting polls to appear for the other projects, and vote in those too.
2) Promote the Rose and Bay Award by blogging about it, emailing your friends, posting it on social networks, or any other method you can imagine. Everyone is encouraged to spread the word as far as possible whether you are a creator, a donor, or a curious bystander. Here is some art for the Rose and Bay Award.
3) If you're a patron or audience member, link to your favorite nominees and then direct people to the relevant voting pages.
4) If you're a creative person, let your audience know which of your projects have been nominated for a Rose and Bay Award, including a link to the relevant voting page(s). Let your fans know there is a way for them to honor your project and the patrons who make it possible.
Here is the poll. Nominees are listed in the order they were nominated (with the exception of moving both nominations by one author into the same category). This order was chosen in order to avoid any personal preferences Eseme may have from influencing voting. The top FOURTEEN nominees will be put into a final poll of fourteen projects which will determine the award winner. The timing of this final poll will be determined when I can reach the award founder, who is currently offline due to a very large snow and ice storm.
Poll
[Poll #1675877]
View the current poll totals here. Add to those totals one vote for Lovers and Beloveds, one vote for Tales of MU, one vote for Eclipse Court, and one vote for Philosopher in Arms (these votes came in by email and LJ comment, and will be updated weekly).
This post has been edited once, because it still said "Webcomic Category" in the title. Sorry!
This is the second poll to be put up. I am a firm believer in anonymous voting. LJ will not allow a poll that no one can see the individual results for. I will be able to see them, which will allow me to count votes, since I *also* cannot see the numbers once a poll gets to a certain number - they go off the edge of this layout. I am not a community mod, so I can't change the layout. If you are concerned that I will manipulate the results behind the scenes, where you cannot see them, I will point out that if the layout of this community was changed, everyone would be able to view the total votes for each nominee in the poll - however no one but me will be able to see who voted for what (again, webfiction is a small community, and in this poll you cannot vote for all your friends - I think there will a much smaller possibility of hurt feelings here). I will take votes by email, because the requirement that voters provide real names makes people uncomfortable. Right now I am using a personal account - I would prefer that an account be set up for the awards in general, and that all volunteers for the awards have the password.
Also edited to clarify that yes, the top 14 will go into a second round of voting. Sorry, I mistyped in my earlier poll.
Additionally, I have added an email address for which people from outside LJ can contact me and vote (JUST for this category!). You will be asked to provide a nickname or real name when you do so.
Sorry for the confusion - clearly I am not good at polls at all.
Edited on 2/8/2011 to post totals from comments and emails.
Edited again on 2/23/2011 to add one more vote by email, and subtract one vote which was against the rules.
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(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-02 06:14 pm (UTC)Note that anyone can see the anonymous results without the bars cutting off by clicking 'View in my style' at the very top of the page... provided they don't have a fixed-width personal style.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-02 11:11 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-02 11:56 pm (UTC)I think the poll results should be easier for everyone to see, but I cannot change the community style.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-02 11:10 pm (UTC)You are a member of and are watching crowdfunding
Post to this community / Leave this community / View in original style (or View in my style)
(It can be a very handy toggle for those personal styles that are hard to read!)
(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-02 11:34 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-03 12:31 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-07 07:42 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-02 11:55 pm (UTC)I am putting a more obvious link to the Poll Results Page into the post.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-03 06:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-04 01:49 am (UTC)I will contact the creators. Probably tomorrow, just due to time constraints. Voting is open all month, and there will be a run-off poll posted for one week in March. I will email everyone, yourself included, with details. I'll use the account I reverenced in the voting rules.
Thank you for pointing this out!
(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-04 07:23 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-04 11:30 pm (UTC)I left things in the order they were nominated, which is as fair as I can make it.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-05 01:12 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-05 03:43 am (UTC)They have to be broken up in groups. I chose the order of nomination, so as not to be accused of arranging the categories to favor one or more nominees.
Yes, this exposes a problem in using LJ for this award. However, I am not the creator of the award, nor the one who runs it. I volunteered to help with this category, this year.
I do know that last year there was a post-mortem post. The public was asked for input, and I think it would certainly be worthwhile to mention your concerns there.
There will be a final poll with the top 14 nominees in one question, the first week in March.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-05 08:06 am (UTC)It's broken because the LJ poll system you are using only allows you to select a single option out of a group. You have two groups. The radio button style of the poll only lets you select a single entry per group. That means you can only vote for one from the first group and one from the second group. You CANNOT get a valid result from this with the poll set up the way it is.
Specifically, I cannot vote for the two that I want to vote for because they're in the same group. It will ONLY let me do one of them. I am not the only one who will find this to be the case. This is why you won't get meaningful results, and why I don't think you'll get any kind of useful result at the end of this.
There's a multiple-checkbox option in common use for this kind of thing, but I don't know if the LJ system supports it.
In any case, if you want it to be fair you should work out a way that fairly allows people to select two out of the group. If you continue to use the radio button approach you need to provide two identical sets, it doesn't matter HOW you split them up with the polling form, and then when you tally the votes, you'll have to manually exclude the ones that vote incorrectly, but with any kind of multiple-option that'd be the case anyway.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-05 10:22 pm (UTC)The problem with checkboxes is that people can check as many as they like. While most voters will go by the rules, someone could easily vote for five or ten entries. This would be particularly annoying for the nominees - it is no fun to look at the poll results as reported by LiveJournal and think that you have fifteen votes, but find out only later that five of them are invalid.
I believe that you may have also misunderstood something I said. I would direct you to section 2 of The Rules in the post above the poll.
I will note that email does not have any radio buttons or checkboxes. That option has been there since the beginning, and I given your concerns, you are welcome to use it.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-06 12:10 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-06 12:40 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-06 12:42 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-06 12:50 am (UTC)http://stardancer.org/spots/
http://www.addergoole.com
http://robling-t.livejournal.com/ (Tin Man)
http://wonder-city.dreamwidth.org/
http://capriox.digitalnovelists.com/node/4 (Strong Heart)
http://www.meilinmiranda.com/history/book1/1-1 (Lovers & Beloveds)
http://peacock-king.infernalshenanigans.com/
http://www.talesofmu.com/story/
http://www.zoewhitten.com/content/stories/sto_a-frosty-cure_pr.html
http://wyld-dandelyon.livejournal.com/37337.html (Fire-Born)
http://wyld-dandelyon.livejournal.com/88168.html (Feather-Blessed)
http://thecityofroses.com/
http://wysteriaclimbing.com/tapestry/
http://pixelscapes.com/anachronauts/
http://eclipsecourt.blogspot.com/
http://chevenga.com/ (Philosopher in Arms)
http://krater.digitalnovelists.com/snakeskin/
I think I got everyone...
(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-06 01:03 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-06 01:04 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-06 12:44 am (UTC)Your earlier remarks about polling are useful, and I would invite you to make them on the post mortem page once the final round of voting is over.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-06 01:02 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-07 01:44 am (UTC)That would be a way of narrowing the field down to the picks that will fit in a single poll, which could then be done with radio buttons.
I realize the contest is already underway and that it's no time to be talking about changing the arrangements now, so I'll be repeating these comments on any discussion that happens afterwards. I just wanted to put them out there now.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-07 03:10 am (UTC)I will admit, I should have thought of that. I didn't realize until I was making the poll the first time that I would have more nominations that poll slots, and I really wasn't sure what to do. Yasbet's internet was down at that point due to ice, and I didn't want to wait an unknown time to put up a poll. So I did the best I could at the time, and have learned a lot from the resulting comments.
I also think using a system that allows for more than fifteen items on a poll question would solve a lot of the issues as well.
Thanks for the input - there will definitely be a general post-mortem thread for comments.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-02-07 03:20 am (UTC)Lovers and Beloveds by Meilin Miranda
Date: 2011-02-05 03:45 am (UTC)Anhata Szot
Re: Lovers and Beloveds by Meilin Miranda
Date: 2011-02-05 10:26 pm (UTC)Thank you for participating!
Tales of MU
Date: 2011-02-07 06:13 am (UTC)Re: Tales of MU
Date: 2011-02-09 12:32 am (UTC)Thank you for participating!
Fiction Category Nominees (for convenience)
Date: 2011-02-09 01:06 am (UTC)Group 2:
(http://www.talesofmu.com/story/book01/1)
Voting
Date: 2011-02-28 04:31 pm (UTC)I hope this works. A little confusing.