Hm, maybe a middle ground might be to have an official "please consider my work for nomination" post on the comm, to raise awareness of what's out there and active/eligible/interested without having to involve the creators directly in the actual nominating? I know that as a creator I was thrilled to have spontaneously been put up for a R&B (and by a new reader, no less), in a way that wouldn't have been quite so, well, cool, if I'd simply put the work up myself...
May I vote for what robling_t has suggested? I think this may widen the field of nominations without sacrificing the award's credibility. At the very least, it would give patrons and creator-patrons a list of eligible projects to enjoy -and possibly support- before the nomination period even begins!
The tricky part, of course, is figuring out when to hold this "open season." I hesitate to suggest December because everyone's busy that month...but I'm not sure what our other options are. Thoughts?
Putting the post at the beginning of January would let people go straight to the nomination pages, and it would be at a less busy time of year than holiday season.
I have no objection to creators nominating and voting for their own work, but to me it makes sense for there to be more votes than nominations. robling_t's suggestion is a good one...any project that's likely to get more than the creator's vote will probably have at least one fan who would respond to a request for nomination. Each project can only be nominated once, though, so there should still be an increase in activity during the voting period.
Meeks has a pretty good point, but about getting more nominations...
Maybe having clearer guidelines what can be nominated would help? I didn't nominate projects because I could not tell if anything I knew (that had not been already nominated by other people) was acceptable.
I asked for clarification on webcomics and was told that only a tip jar was not enough, so since I didn't know a webcomic doing something like asking for reader input for plots regularly, I didn't nominate any. Later I saw a nomination had been accepted because there was a merchandise shop, and was pretty confused.
Knowing minimum requirements of "interactivity" would really be helpful.
It's a challenge to find a balance between giving people enough information to make nominations, and keeping the rules short enough that people will actually read them. Several previous remarks have said that the rules were already too long and complicated.
Eligibility depends on a combination two things: some way of making money, and some way of audience interaction. With some projects it's really easy to tell whether they qualify or not. Others are much more difficult, and yes, there have been times when I've hunted around and abandoned a whole bunch of projects because I couldn't really tell.
Yes that is a good idea, and creators should spread the info about Rose and Bay more on their home sites. I think with the audiences they can pull in there should be several thousand votes not several hundred.
I think creators spreading the word and their audiences nominating and voting makes sense.
And I voted to fast - I want to change my vote on the second question to "Yes, creators should be able to vote for their own projects." After I hit submit I was vividly reminded of having to scroll through the list of votes and weed out the people who forgot and voted for themselves. With over 100 votes in fiction it was horrid.
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Date: 2012-03-05 08:33 pm (UTC)Yes...
Date: 2012-03-06 06:11 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-03-05 08:58 pm (UTC)The tricky part, of course, is figuring out when to hold this "open season." I hesitate to suggest December because everyone's busy that month...but I'm not sure what our other options are. Thoughts?
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Date: 2012-03-06 01:26 am (UTC)Hmm...
Date: 2012-03-06 06:26 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-03-05 08:59 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-03-05 09:11 pm (UTC)A more general comment
Date: 2012-03-05 09:16 pm (UTC)Maybe having clearer guidelines what can be nominated would help? I didn't nominate projects because I could not tell if anything I knew (that had not been already nominated by other people) was acceptable.
I asked for clarification on webcomics and was told that only a tip jar was not enough, so since I didn't know a webcomic doing something like asking for reader input for plots regularly, I didn't nominate any. Later I saw a nomination had been accepted because there was a merchandise shop, and was pretty confused.
Knowing minimum requirements of "interactivity" would really be helpful.
Re: A more general comment
Date: 2012-03-06 06:46 am (UTC)Eligibility depends on a combination two things: some way of making money, and some way of audience interaction. With some projects it's really easy to tell whether they qualify or not. Others are much more difficult, and yes, there have been times when I've hunted around and abandoned a whole bunch of projects because I couldn't really tell.
Re: A more general comment
Date: 2012-03-06 07:25 am (UTC)Or maybe instead in addition to the "you may ask" note a link to a list with examples of features what makes a project OK.
What is the minimum requirement to fulfil having "audience interaction"? Would a forum be sufficient? Or comment threads on the content-bits?
Mmm
Date: 2012-03-06 01:10 am (UTC)Re: Mmm
Date: 2012-03-09 02:57 am (UTC)And I voted to fast - I want to change my vote on the second question to "Yes, creators should be able to vote for their own projects." After I hit submit I was vividly reminded of having to scroll through the list of votes and weed out the people who forgot and voted for themselves. With over 100 votes in fiction it was horrid.