Establishing an Award
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I'm tired of awards not counting crowdfunded projects. I've seen all this before; it's the same old nonsense that went on when electronic publication began. It wasn't "real" publishing and nobody wanted it in their awards, yada yada yada. I don't feel like waiting around another ten or twelve years while people look for a clue machine and a quarter to put in it.
[EDIT 12/29/09: The Nebula officially accepts crowdfunded fiction. The Rhysling officially bans crowdfunded poems.]
What we need is an award of our own, focused on cyberfunded creativity. I'm willing to do what I can to make that happen. I need at least some help, though, to make it work optimally.
First, I propose that we start with four simple categories: Art, Fiction, Poetry, and Other Project. (Other includes any cyberfunded creativity that isn't art, fiction, or poetry -- or that spans more than one category.) Those are categories where I know projects are happening. I'm willing to handle Art, Fiction, and Other. I'm not willing to handle the Poetry category because that's the type of project I do. If anyone else wants to manage another category, let me know.
[EDIT 12/30/09: A fifth category has been added, Patron, for people who contribute toward the financial success of crowdfunded projects.]
[EDIT 12/31/09: The categories and their current handlers are listed below.]
Art:
ysabetwordsmith
Fiction:
ysabetwordsmith
Poetry:
xjenavivex
Other Project:
ysabetwordsmith
Patron:
xjenavivex
I propose the following time parameters:
Nomination period January 1-January 31, 2010.
Voting period February 1-February 28, 2010.
This allows time to promote the award across a wide range of venues, and repeat the announcements so that plenty of people have time to hear them. Everyone is encouraged to spread the word as far as possible whether you are a creator, a donor, or whatever.
I propose the following rules:
1) In order to be nominated, a project must be "cyberfunded creativity" aka "crowdfunding." That means it must be creative material marketed directly to an audience online, with money involved somehow. There are many variations of this business model; all are welcome; and if you're not sure a project qualifies, you may ask.
2) In order to be nominated, at least part of the project must be visible online without charge. If the project is normally visible only to paying subscribers or the like, and the creator wishes for it to be eligible, then s/he may offer temporary or partial access for voting purposes. (If the available material is partial and/or temporary, it needs to say that at the top of the screen, to avoid annoying visitors who might otherwise think they're about to see a complete piece.)
2.5) In order to be nominated, a patron must have contributed money to at least one cyberfunded project. This establishes the "crowdfunding" aspect and distinguishes patrons from audience members who are not putting money into this business model. However, financial contribution is not the only consideration for this category, so nominated patrons may be -- but are not required to be -- the most generous contributors to a project. Feedback, promotion, and other forms of enthusiasm may among the factors considered in nomination or voting. Note that many cyberfunded projects have an "honor wall" or some other form of acknowledgement for patrons, and some indicate which parts of a project were funded by whom, which helps show who might be eligible for this category and how great a patron they are.
3) This award will go by calendar years. So in order to be eligible for the first round, a project or patron must have been active on or between January 1, 2009 and December 31, 2009.
4) For this round, nominations will be made in comments on a nomination post in this community. A nomination consists of the project title, creator name, award category, a link to the project page, and a sentence or few summarizing the project and its crowdfunding approach. Example: "Awesome Content by A.J. Muse. http://awe.some.content.com Other. Awesome Content is a story about A.J. Muse's three ferrets, told in a combination of music and fiction, illustrated by photos; it is funded by a combination of donations and photo sales." (Future rounds may use a more flexible nomination system if such becomes available.)
4) You may nominate a maximum of three projects per category. You are not required to make that many nominations or to cover all the categories. You may not nominate your own project, nor yourself as a patron; that's tacky. You MAY nominate patrons for the Patron category who have contributed money to your project, or you may nominate patrons supporting someone else's project; but still only a total of three nominations for this category.
5) Nominations for each category will be collected by the person in charge of that category.
6) Voters are strongly encouraged to browse the nominees before making a final decision; that's what the links are for, and the purpose of this award is to promote the splendor of crowdfunded projects.
7) Voting will take place via LiveJournal polling in this community, open to all. You may cast one vote per category. (There may need to be more than one poll question per category, and runoffs, if the number of nominees is high.) You may not vote for your own project, nor yourself as a patron; that's tacky. (Future rounds may use a more flexible voting system if such becomes available.)
8) Winners will be announced after the polling is completed.
So far, there is no rendition of the award, just a concept for honoring creative talent and business ingenuity. It doesn't have a name; you can make suggestions if you wish. I rather like "Smoking Hat" ... a reference to the sassy remark, "Put that in your hat and smoke it!" (which derives from two others, "Put that in your PIPE and smoke it" and "Put that in your hat and WEAR it.").
[EDIT 12/30/09: Everyone seems to love "Rose and Bay" as a name for this award. Also, a request has been made for a tangible format. I could probably produce certificates. If you want custom art or a sculpted award, someone with more artistic talent will have to step up and provide such.]
Feedback is welcome.
[EDIT 12/29/09: The Nebula officially accepts crowdfunded fiction. The Rhysling officially bans crowdfunded poems.]
What we need is an award of our own, focused on cyberfunded creativity. I'm willing to do what I can to make that happen. I need at least some help, though, to make it work optimally.
First, I propose that we start with four simple categories: Art, Fiction, Poetry, and Other Project. (Other includes any cyberfunded creativity that isn't art, fiction, or poetry -- or that spans more than one category.) Those are categories where I know projects are happening. I'm willing to handle Art, Fiction, and Other. I'm not willing to handle the Poetry category because that's the type of project I do. If anyone else wants to manage another category, let me know.
[EDIT 12/30/09: A fifth category has been added, Patron, for people who contribute toward the financial success of crowdfunded projects.]
[EDIT 12/31/09: The categories and their current handlers are listed below.]
Art:
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
Fiction:
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
Poetry:
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
Other Project:
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
Patron:
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
I propose the following time parameters:
Nomination period January 1-January 31, 2010.
Voting period February 1-February 28, 2010.
This allows time to promote the award across a wide range of venues, and repeat the announcements so that plenty of people have time to hear them. Everyone is encouraged to spread the word as far as possible whether you are a creator, a donor, or whatever.
I propose the following rules:
1) In order to be nominated, a project must be "cyberfunded creativity" aka "crowdfunding." That means it must be creative material marketed directly to an audience online, with money involved somehow. There are many variations of this business model; all are welcome; and if you're not sure a project qualifies, you may ask.
2) In order to be nominated, at least part of the project must be visible online without charge. If the project is normally visible only to paying subscribers or the like, and the creator wishes for it to be eligible, then s/he may offer temporary or partial access for voting purposes. (If the available material is partial and/or temporary, it needs to say that at the top of the screen, to avoid annoying visitors who might otherwise think they're about to see a complete piece.)
2.5) In order to be nominated, a patron must have contributed money to at least one cyberfunded project. This establishes the "crowdfunding" aspect and distinguishes patrons from audience members who are not putting money into this business model. However, financial contribution is not the only consideration for this category, so nominated patrons may be -- but are not required to be -- the most generous contributors to a project. Feedback, promotion, and other forms of enthusiasm may among the factors considered in nomination or voting. Note that many cyberfunded projects have an "honor wall" or some other form of acknowledgement for patrons, and some indicate which parts of a project were funded by whom, which helps show who might be eligible for this category and how great a patron they are.
3) This award will go by calendar years. So in order to be eligible for the first round, a project or patron must have been active on or between January 1, 2009 and December 31, 2009.
4) For this round, nominations will be made in comments on a nomination post in this community. A nomination consists of the project title, creator name, award category, a link to the project page, and a sentence or few summarizing the project and its crowdfunding approach. Example: "Awesome Content by A.J. Muse. http://awe.some.content.com Other. Awesome Content is a story about A.J. Muse's three ferrets, told in a combination of music and fiction, illustrated by photos; it is funded by a combination of donations and photo sales." (Future rounds may use a more flexible nomination system if such becomes available.)
4) You may nominate a maximum of three projects per category. You are not required to make that many nominations or to cover all the categories. You may not nominate your own project, nor yourself as a patron; that's tacky. You MAY nominate patrons for the Patron category who have contributed money to your project, or you may nominate patrons supporting someone else's project; but still only a total of three nominations for this category.
5) Nominations for each category will be collected by the person in charge of that category.
6) Voters are strongly encouraged to browse the nominees before making a final decision; that's what the links are for, and the purpose of this award is to promote the splendor of crowdfunded projects.
7) Voting will take place via LiveJournal polling in this community, open to all. You may cast one vote per category. (There may need to be more than one poll question per category, and runoffs, if the number of nominees is high.) You may not vote for your own project, nor yourself as a patron; that's tacky. (Future rounds may use a more flexible voting system if such becomes available.)
8) Winners will be announced after the polling is completed.
So far, there is no rendition of the award, just a concept for honoring creative talent and business ingenuity. It doesn't have a name; you can make suggestions if you wish. I rather like "Smoking Hat" ... a reference to the sassy remark, "Put that in your hat and smoke it!" (which derives from two others, "Put that in your PIPE and smoke it" and "Put that in your hat and WEAR it.").
[EDIT 12/30/09: Everyone seems to love "Rose and Bay" as a name for this award. Also, a request has been made for a tangible format. I could probably produce certificates. If you want custom art or a sculpted award, someone with more artistic talent will have to step up and provide such.]
Feedback is welcome.
(no subject)
Date: 2009-12-30 05:56 am (UTC)Yay!
Date: 2009-12-30 06:01 am (UTC)The Rhysling Award for speculative poetry remains adamantly opposed to including crowdfunded poems. Other people have complained about various other awards refusing crowdfunded projects. It would be helpful to have a list of those that have made official statements, for and against.
Re: Yay!
Date: 2009-12-30 06:25 am (UTC)Re: Yay!
Date: 2009-12-30 06:41 am (UTC)If you want to see the reply they sent to me, give me your email address and I can email it to you.
This annoys me, but I suspect it annoys my audience members more; I've had repeated grumbles from people over this. Ultimately, I consider awards expendable when balanced against such concerns as writing fine poetry, getting people hooked on poetry, thrilling my fans, and making a living as a professional wordsmith. But I also know that awards can be a valuable way of alerting people to the best material in a field. If the current awards are ignoring a large swath of material, something else needs to cover that gap.
My two cents
Date: 2009-12-30 02:41 pm (UTC)I feel as though "Smoking Hat" is a bit too reactionary; it might be apt now, but I think, in establishing an award, an eye to the long term is beneficial.
Crowdfunding revives, in a modern way, the concept of patronage. A "Patron Award" would be more appropriate for someone who has done the funding (and might be a nice parallel award at some point), but perhaps working along those lines might lead to a good name for the award.
I think it would be nice, also, to have a tangible form of the award, even just a certificate. If this is to be done, let's do it right.
Re: My two cents
Date: 2009-12-30 05:01 pm (UTC)I'm willing to consider that, if enough people feel that it would help. I tend to prefer awards whose timing is easy to remember, and that generate findings promptly. I figured that allowing a month apiece for nomination and judging would be sufficient.
>> Crowdfunding revives, in a modern way, the concept of patronage. A "Patron Award" would be more appropriate for someone who has done the funding (and might be a nice parallel award at some point), <<
I like the idea of an award for crowdfunding patrons. Perhaps we could add this as a category in this award? It could be spun off later if people desire.
>>I think it would be nice, also, to have a tangible form of the award, even just a certificate.<<
I could do certificates.
(no subject)
Date: 2009-12-30 04:25 pm (UTC)Ooo...
Date: 2009-12-30 05:02 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-12-30 04:45 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-12-31 04:23 am (UTC)Just a thought!
Yes...
Date: 2009-12-31 06:28 am (UTC)I'll go ahead and add this to the categories.
Is there someone willing to handle the Patron category who has NOT donated money to a crowdfunded project during 2009?
Re: Yes...
Date: 2009-12-31 12:37 pm (UTC)Re: Yes...
Date: 2009-12-31 06:39 pm (UTC)I was originally thinking that the manager for each category would track the nominations, create the LJ polls for voting, and then announce the winner. With further thought, I think the manager should make the "nomination open" post for their category. Now that certificates are planned for the winners, it occurs to me that such things are usually signed by someone in authority, so it would make sense for the category manager to sign the certificate for that category.
>>If so, I can do it (I'll exclude myself from the running even though I donate money to projects).<<
I appreciate the offer, but I really want to have each category handled by someone who is not eligible to be nominated for that category in 2009. (That's why I'm not just managing all of them myself.) You're eligible to be nominated for Fiction, Poetry, Art, and Patron ... I'm not sure about Other Project.
However, you can still help with this award by spreading the word about it so that more folks can participate.
Re: Yes...
Date: 2009-12-31 06:50 pm (UTC)Re: Yes...
Date: 2009-12-31 06:59 pm (UTC)If you're looking for another way to participate, it occurs to me that we don't have a "Rose and Bay" image for the award yet. I might could cobble up something with clip art, but I'm sure a real artist could do much better. A simple, stylish piece in pen and ink should reproduce well.
Re: Yes...
Date: 2009-12-31 07:00 pm (UTC)Re: Yes...
Date: 2009-12-31 07:07 pm (UTC)Re: Yes...
Date: 2009-12-31 07:40 pm (UTC)Re: Yes...
From:Re: Yes...
Date: 2009-12-31 07:38 pm (UTC)If you search "laurel wreath" you can see lots of sample images. It often appears as a sort of horseshoe shape with the open end up. Two possible ways to combine that sort of image with a rose would be to put a single flower in the open space at the top of the bay laurel wreath, or to put a rose on its leafy stem in the center space framed by the bay laurel wreath.
A different approach could draw on the fact that bay is sometimes presented as a branch along with some other type of plant. Here's an example of bay laurel and oak:
http://www.nemzetijelkepek.hu/onkormanyzat-abony_en.shtml
Those are just a few ideas; others are surely possible, so by all means explore your own. It might be worthwhile to doodle around a bit and see what looks promising on paper.
Re: Yes...
Date: 2010-01-01 09:30 pm (UTC)rose petals rather than
the flower, to enhance
the idea of many people
contributing.
Hmm...
From:Re: Hmm...
From:Re: Yes...
Date: 2010-01-02 03:07 am (UTC)Re: Yes...
Date: 2010-01-02 03:11 am (UTC)Re: Yes...
Date: 2010-01-02 03:20 am (UTC)Re: Yes...
Date: 2010-01-02 03:34 am (UTC)Thank you!
Date: 2009-12-31 06:28 pm (UTC)Second, you can help with promotion. I want to spread the word about this award as far as possible, especially once the details are nailed down and nomination opens.
Third, you can watch for the "nomination" posts to appear, and make nominations. So you might want to browse around and remind yourself of cool projects and enthusiastic patrons.
Fourth, you can vote!
Re: Thank you!
Date: 2009-12-31 06:44 pm (UTC)I don't see why not. The whole point to having the handler be ineligible for their category is so they don't have a personal stake in it. The only rule about voting is that you can't vote for yourself in any way.
Shall I officially put you down for handling the Poetry and Patron categories, then?
>>The second is nothing to me - no problem there. You tell me when the details are finalized and you know I will be there. I am fairly good at promotion.<<
Okay, great.
Re: Thank you!
Date: 2009-12-31 06:52 pm (UTC)Re: Thank you!
Date: 2009-12-31 07:03 pm (UTC)I'll have to see about drafting a "nomination open" post. I think we can use much of the same text across the categories, and just customize it for each.
Re: Thank you!
Date: 2010-01-02 03:14 am (UTC)And you, too ysabet for organizing this whole thing and volunteering!
*bow, flourish*
Date: 2010-01-02 03:32 am (UTC)Re: Thank you!
Date: 2010-01-05 08:01 pm (UTC)musing on categories
Date: 2010-01-02 03:11 am (UTC)I don't know if that means we might want to have a separate music category this year, but I'd definitely suggest one for next year.
Stuff like "free icon day" would qualify as an art project, not "other". What other "other" types of projects have you seen?
Re: musing on categories
Date: 2010-01-02 03:23 am (UTC)I deliberately kept the list of categories short this year, so that it would not be too difficult to handle. I understand that this creates a number of "apples and oranges" comparisons -- for instance, "Fiction" covers everything from flash to novels. If people are enthusiastic about this award, then it has plenty of room to grow. The categories that get the most nominations this year would be most logical to subdivide next year. How much growth occurs will depend on how many people participate this year and how many volunteers we get next year.
>>What other "other" types of projects have you seen?<<
I've seen at least two projects that merged jewelry and fiction. One was an old project that
Webcomics would count as "other" because they cross two categories, fiction and art.
Divination is "other."
Movies or other video would be "other."
This award and the wider community
Date: 2010-01-02 03:18 am (UTC)This leads me to wonder if people who are not LJ members can post comments to this community (and thus nominate their favorite projects)?
Re: This award and the wider community
Date: 2010-01-02 03:28 am (UTC)Thanks everso!
>>This leads me to wonder if people who are not LJ members can post comments to this community (and thus nominate their favorite projects)?<<
This community is currently set to allow comments from anyone, so yes, they can. Anonymous commenters will see a CAPTCHA display to cut down on spam.
Icon?
Date: 2010-01-03 05:44 pm (UTC)Original is 1000 by 1000 pixels so you can have other sizes if needed
Re: Icon?
Date: 2010-01-03 05:45 pm (UTC)Original is 1000 by 1000 pixels so you can have other sizes if needed
Re: Icon?
Date: 2010-01-03 08:53 pm (UTC)The standard for LJ icons is 100x100 pixels; I think this would work if you downsized to that.
Re: Icon?
Date: 2010-01-03 11:50 pm (UTC)Re: Icon?
Date: 2010-01-04 02:03 am (UTC)Wow!
Date: 2010-01-03 10:08 pm (UTC)I was not expecting anything like that! This has great potential.
>>His company is 'Ace Awards'.
Ace Awards 194A Carlton Street Toronto, Ontario M5A 2K8 tel:
416.927.7328 fax: 416.927.8398<<
Okay ... on previous award-shopping occasions, I went into a little shop and looked at their samples and catalog.
Does he have a website or catalog or something we could browse for options? Or did he have something particular in mind?
Is he able to ship things to ... well, wherever the winners live? There's no telling what country that will be; we've already got nominations for people in Canada and the United States.
Re: Wow!
Date: 2010-01-03 10:46 pm (UTC)Re: Wow!
Date: 2010-01-03 10:52 pm (UTC)Better wait till after supper for a detailed perusal.
One of my readers blogged about the awards!
Date: 2010-01-04 07:07 am (UTC)